John
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welcome to a brand new #chatcast friends
Jen
Bea this time next week I’ll be landing in Oslo!!!
John
it’s a bright new day and today i thought we should chat about everyone’s HOT topic : CORONAVIRUS and it’s implications on our sector in the days ahead
Beate
No Jen, you won’t – that will have been yesterday
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Jen
Right! Time zones and dates are my kryptonite!
Beate
And directions
Sorry John – will try not to derail any more!
Jen
Thank you for hosting today, John? What’s on your mind?
John
Simon cant join us since – he came down with something…
so
Beate
Is Simon quarantined?
John
its just three lobsters today
Beate
coronalobster
John
he should be.
Beate
permanently
Jen
it would be a safer option if he was quarantined
John
i will try to resist making light of this TOO much – since – that’s usually simons job and two…
this is pretty serious
Beate
Yeah
Jen
pandemics usually are
John
we have colleagues who are literally locked awauy
Beate
Same
and i was in a meeting with THEIR colleagues today…
I made them stand in the corner
John
I talked to my pal Giovanna – who lives in Milan yesterday
everything is shut down there
she said “Schools are closed and most people are working from home these weeks. Cinemas, theatres, museum, bars and churches had to close. All public events are being cancelled over the next two- three months. ”
Jen
what’s spreading faster, the virus or the panic?
John
I would say both!
John
so i do have a couple specific things we can gab about
one is legacy gifts and the other is premiums…
which one do we unpack first
Jen
from the sublime to the ridiculoyus
John
are you new here Jen?
Beate
i don’t think there’s panic
Jen
Definitely lots of stockpiling stories on the news
Beate
I think there’s a measured and serious response to what IS very serious – even if most of us will be perfectly fine.
John
i hope youre right BEATE
Jen
she usually is
Beate
The whole managment team of one of our orgs over here is currently quarantined after meeting with a confirmed case (before they were confirmed).
Obviously, that’s going to impact some stuff.
John
right?
Jen
one of our clients is travelling at the end of the month and has already been told that working from home is likely
Beate
But I think the larger impact is going to be on the expectation of panic and unrest.
LIke, if you anticipate the economy tanking – are you going to spend your money on donations?
Jen
my brother in law (works in tech) has had all his travel suspended until end of april at the earliest
John
as a direct mail fella – i’ve wondered for those collageues of ours
who heavily rely on premiums (from china) in the direct mail
what if shipments of labels stop getting shipped
Beate
Shipments are seriously impacted
John
this is a real question BTW
lol
Beate
It’s really slow getting goods shipped out of China at the moment
That’s not about stopping spread, it’s about people in actual china doing the shipping being sick or quarantined
serious answer
Jen
i care much more about the medicine that is not going to be shipped, but defo premiums will be impacted
John
so – you have a heavy premium acqusiiton program in Australia… now what?
Jen
what will be the impact on charities who rely on that form of donor acquisition?
John
exactly
aside from the obvious
Beate
Maybe a good time to rethink and test non-premium aquisition and rely on quality and connection instead…?
?
Jen
YES! that would be a wonderful outcome
Beate
or hey – disease doesn’t spread through the web!
throwback to last weeks chatcast
John
so
maybe this virus is a good thing?
didnt they show the air in CHINA was better because of all the quarentines?
Beate
Yeah, drastcially
Seriously though, I do think we should all think through which parts of our programs might get impacted, what events might we have to change, what goods and services might not get delivered, etc, and plan accordingly.
And for gods sake have insurance if you rely on event income
Figure out who can and cannot work from home, how often does the office get cleaned properly, have routines.
John
i think there is a lot of – how bad is this going to get?
Jen
and this is just about fundraising. what about program staff on the ground in different parts of the world–some charities will have to change their programs
John
but good advice Beate.
Beate
Same for program delivery – how can this impact us if the worst happens.
Like Jen just said ??♀️
Jen
i know you wanted to talk about legacies too john
but we have to also consider what will happen to larger fundraising conferences
John
let’s talk about conferences first
Beate
We just had this discussion at our conference planning meeting today
Jen
oh my goddess, how often do charity offices get cleaned… in my experience working at a charity…NEVER
Beate
Someone should look into that. With soap
Jen
what was the discussion Bea?
John
we started to hear rumours that some of our fav conferences are talking about plan B’s
Beate
So our conference is in september
how do we prepare for an eventual plan B if the outbreak is still going.
Jen
Simon and Nikki were so ahead of the curve with Fundraising Everywhere!
John
lol… who knew
Beate
Apparantly that’s how the Spanish flu rolled, there was a smaller outbreak in the spring, quieter over summer and the real wave in the fall. If that happens, it impacts the whole fall conference roster.
Jen
Maybe Simon is a criminal mastermind who has created this whole thing
Beate
He IS conspicuously missing this conversation..
John
LOL
Beate
But yeah. You do need to plan for a) how do we contain this if it’s still going but not to cancel everything-level, and b) what do you do if you do have to cancel
with a) I mean hygience, disinfection, how to make it safer for a large crowd to be in the same room.
hygience, that’s a new word
John
and like you said B
if they have set up their conference without sufficent insurance
you are a bit screwed
Beate
Yep. Don’t plan ANYTHING that would break the bank if it gets cancelled
John
an you imagine if youre a 1,000 conference and you had to refund everything and everyone?
Beate
and still pay all your vendors ’cause contracts.
Jen
My mum wrote a book about pandemics. Think imma dust that off for bedtime reading with my teenagers
Beate
oh wow!
That is SUCH a dramatic cover!
John
LOL
Jen
Right?
John
even as international speakers – such as ourselves i’m really starting to consider my plans for the next while
Jen
John do you remember the Congress during SARS? Or was it H1N1?
Beate
Wait were you both there for SARS?
So old
John
hmmm
Jen
Fuck you Bea
Beate
lol
John
i dont remember
Jen
I remember they gave us all hand sanitizer pens
John
ouf
RIGHT
Beate
SARS was 2003. H1n1 was 2010 or something.
Jen
and showed us all the different ways to greet without shaking hands
John
i think i thought mine was a mouth spray
Beate
John
lol. that will be about it.
the full body huggers WILL NOT LIKE this
Beate
I’ve been so cautious about what I touch these past few days!
Which you probably should be anyway to be fair
John
(name of your sex tape beate?)
Beate
?
Jen
I’ve never been more aware of how much I touch my face
Beate
JEN WHAT WILL WE DO NEXT WEEK YOU’RE RIGHT OFF A PLANE!!
John
lol
Beate
SANTISE YOURSELF AND THEN WE’LL HUG
Jen
Deal
Beate
It’s so unfair that pollen season coincides with don’t touch your face season
☹
John
ok – we need to wrap up soon
so
ill ask one more question
Beate
Do lobsters get corona virus
John
do you think that legacy giving programs could see an uptick – due to the unfortunate fact that maybe there will be an uptick in deaths? and is this good or bad for charities? discuss
Jen
oouf
Beate
Maybe and no don’t even ask that question my god
So inappropriate
?
John
no?
Jen
Another consideration: will more people be writing (or updating) wills now?
John
right?
Jen
that would also be a good outcome…more people writing/updating wills
Beate
Either way – an uptick now would mean a downtick (is that a word?) in the coming years, so.
John
well
not necessarly
Beate
why not?
John
we’d just be speeding the inevitable up
Beate
That’s what I said
John
oh
LOL
Beate
you’re agreeing with me by saying you disagree with me?
John
that would be a very lobster thing – wouldnt it
Beate
true
In conclusion: wash your hands.
John
in all seriousness – i do hope all of our friends and colleagues – arouind the world – stay safe and healthy…
Jen
Agree. wash your hands!
John
and hopefully this thing starts to sort itself out…
Beate
According to Trump it’ll all be fine when the weather is warmer so ??♀
Jen
Simon, maybe you can let us know how you plan to unleash this on the planet…
John
lobster fact!
in the spirit of todays coronaversation
i have a lobster fact
Jen
I LOVE a themed lobster fact!
#swoon
Beate
can I for the record say I object to the standard you’re both setting by relating lobster facts to themes
John
LOL
Jen
Objection noted. Moving on.
John
considering the fact that stores are being emptied
When food is scarce, lobsters can turn cannibal and dine on smaller lobsters.
Jen
You already used this fact!
Beate
hahahahahaha
John
did i????
SHIT
WTF?
Jen
I think you have the virus.
Beate
It is REALLY not that many lobster facts to check through, John!
John
ok ok
hold on
does anyone want to guess
the record
Jen
for how many more times can he fuck up the lobster fact?
Beate
hahahahah
John
for the largest lobster roll?
Beate
oh.. eating lobster rolls, so much better than eating the kids.
Jen
I think I just heard Mark Phillips’ ears perk up
John
LOL
guesses?
Beate
Side note: Cannibal lobster fact was in the Mark Phillips episode.
John
No googling
Beate
what are we talking about, weight, square kilometers, height in american forearms?
Jen
biggest lobster roll… literally no idea. like one of those giant submarine sandwiches they eat at american fairs?
John
180 FEET!
Beate
I do not know how much that is
Neither does 90% of the world
metric please
John
FFS Beate
Beate
FFS John
John
there is a place called Shediac, New Brunswich – here in CANADA
John
sigh
180 feet
Beate
Ah length
Is that seriously just a bunch of baguettes in a line?
Very unimpressive
Jen
that’s a serious motherfucker of a lobster rolll
John
it’s like
BIG
just look at the damn link
the made the roll themselves Beate – sheesh
Beate
I did
Not impressed
John
you are a tough crowd
John
bah. now I NEED TO GO WASH my hands after this chat
Beate
Weeeell, I mean. I think we could probably beat that record
John
stay safe gang.
Jen
XOXO lobsters
John
how norweigan of you to say that BEATE
see you next time!
Beate
Oh – but the thing was a fundraiser, did you see?
350 tickets at $20.
To watch bread cook for ten hours
I’m talking to myself now, aren’t I
John
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