Beate
hallo!
John
HAI
Jen
Haiiiiiiiieeee!
Simon
lol
How’s everyone?
Beate
I’m feeling good!
Just did a podcast-podcast earlier today, that was fun
Jen
Cold. It’s February and freezing up in here.
Beate
It’s february and NOT freezing up in here, which is alarming..
John
im in a deep pit of dispair but apart from that – peachy keen
Jen
❤
Simon
Snowing here. And I’m all over the place
What’s a podcast-podcast?
Jen
So old school, Bea. Now who’s the old lady?
Beate
hah
Still you
?
Beate
Isn’t that what Anne of Green Gables says, she’s in the depths of despair?
Very canadian
Jen
Speaking of old ladies, John is quoting Anne with an E
John
just in time for valentines day
Simon
So…
I have officially abandoned my bullet journal
No more BJs more me
John
what?
Simon
So was going to ask you guys this week about your organisational skills
John
ooohhh
Beate
THat didn’t last long!
Jen
that’s a short list but I’m ready
Simon
Since you cover the full spectrum of massively organised ?? to massively gong showy ??
John
nothing say click bait like talking about organizational skills
Simon
It’s all about the pull-out quote John
John
?
Beate
So why did you abandon it, Simon?
Simon
Meh…I think it was the paper that got me
Well, the carrying it around
Beate
haha
Simon
I like it on my phone and computer
Beate
and did you use it as intented?
Simon
I mean yeh I did, but then did you know you’re also supposed to carry a pencil case?
With lots of pens and stencils and shit
Aint nobody got time for that
Beate
yeah if you’re a diehard
Simon
Trello is kind of working for me
Jen
We used Trello and really dug it… but just when it was perfect for us they were going to start to charge us
Beate
I like trello
Simon
Also if anyone mentions Slack I’m booting them out
Beate
I use a combination of trello, slack, google docs, email, calendar and paper
don’t boot me!
Simon
Trello is nice and simple. And I’m using dates on it now too and thats cool. And it’s free
Jen
it is free for a while.
We now use Freedcamp, on the recommendation of Cindy Wagman at Good Partnership
?
Simon
Do you pull in clients and stuff to that?
Or is that just you and John sending each other messages
John
i use a notepad and a pen. you should see my desk
#gongshow
Simon
Why do you use pen and paper? You’re a digital guy
John
i dunno… cos i can literally cross somethng off my list when im done
sense of satsifaction
Simon
That is very satisfying
John
right?
Simon
And I love rewriting out a to do list
Starting fresh
Jen
Less satisfying for me. (the story of Jen)
Because when John needs to find something he digs around like a badger
John
vs – what? moving a tile? clicking a box? select and delete?
Simon
I feel like all these tools are moot. It’s more of a mindset?
Jen
TOTALLY a mindset
Simon
Does anyone actually have that mindset?
I feel like organised people are actually just deviants
Serial killers
John
lol
Jen
with the tools that work for you and your particular persnickety proclivities
Simon
wtf
Beate
For me:
Slack is for informal conversation and discussion. Showing off early designs, getting feedback, agreeing on what we should make.
Trello is for when we have the finished stuff, when we describe what needs to be made and hand it off for someone to make.
Email is for someone external to the project that we need, but not enough to include them in slack or trello.
Paper is for thinking out loud and making a today-list when I am overworked and need to make a list in order to get anything done.
Jen
I’d like to call out Bea’s use of Slack/Trello as a way to not get booted for mentioning Slack
Bea just broke my brain
John
she’s very on brand though – isnt she?
Beate
it works guys!
Simon
She’ll bury us all
Works for you
What’s your morning routine Beate?
Like how do you approach the day?
Beate
I’m really not very organised.
My day is work through my mailbox.
So whenever other people are involved, we need some kind of system – and that’s where slack and trello come in
Simon
Email or post?
Beate
POST??
John
do they have mailboxes in norway????
Beate
what kind of freak gets enough post that they work through it??
Jen
Queen Tammy Zonker said something recently that stuck with me. “Your email is a helpful container for other people’s priorities.”
John
word.
Beate
Yes! That’s why I try to use paper, and slack/trello for where other people are included
Simon
Tammy…that’s why she’ll always be the first lady of fundraising
Simon
Wagman was talking about setting aside time for emails. Like an hour a day or something. She even has that in her constant OOO
That’s out of office
Jen
Tammy is our Beyonce
Simon
Not, “oooo….organised”
Email is a bit of an annoying to do list
I LOVE the snooze on my email
Snooze that until tomorrow
Beate
Saaaaame!!
Snooze that shit
John
i need to do that
Simon
Snooze it until I’m dead
Beate
it’s the only thing that keeps me in any kind of control of my inbox
Jen
I’m a flagger. Don’t snooze but I flag the fuck out of things
Beate
On the WORST-list though:
fucking outlook!!
Jen
Outlook BAH
Beate
Outlook needs to die
Jen
Gmail/Mac Mail
Simon
Wow I forgot outlook existed. Havent used it in years
Beate
anyone who uses outlook as their email client is in a world of self inflicted pain for no reason at all
John
throw down… whoa
Simon
Nobody used outlook by choice
Beate
outlook is only used by people who have to because of their boss, or they don’t know better, or don’t want to change their habits
Simon
So Beate…you get up, you have a shower, you correct lots of people and then…what? You just work through trello and slack and email?
How do you motivate yourself to start?
Beate
oh god
By thinking about how much trouble I’ll be in if I don’t
Jen
“You correct lots of people” AMAZING
John
i need some help getting organized. my inbox, calendar, paper and brain are dumpster fire of stuff…
Simon
Haha
Fear is a good motivator
John
i cant keep on top of it all.
and im drowning in lists.
Simon
It’s hard. And then there’s you yahoos whatsapping me
Beate
hahah
at different timezones of appropriateness
Simon
I think my problem is multitasking
Like jumping around from thing to thing
Jen
Social media is a productivity plunge
And as Wagman pointed out you lose so much time in the change
John
im dead in the water the second i try to multitask.
Simon
I need to start single tasking
Beate
This is why I make paper lists when shit’s on fire. I can then keep that list in front of my eyes and go task-to-task
Simon
We’re men. We can’t multitask
Jen
#BITCHPLEASE
Simon
Jen it’s true
God didn’t give us that gift
John
he’s not too wrong you know
Jen
Don’t even with the gendered part of that
Beate
No one can multitask
Jen
I think my eyerolls might have caused a tsunami
Simon
Yeh maybe it’s a human thing
Jen
It’s a human thing
Simon
I’m going to start really boxing off one task at a time
One tab in chrome
Jen
OH
John
yahhh rrriiiggghhhttttt
Simon
Is that ridiculous?
Jen
I have a blog post started about that
Beate
I never have one tab
usually 3-7
more than that and I get a bit unnerved
Jen
Our gal Rory Green and I have talked about the whole idea of “close some tabs, will ya?”
For work AND life
Simon
Ha – “I have a blog post started about that”
Beate
The irony
?
Jen
FAIR
Simon
Yeh I have minimum 5 tabs at all times
Jen
Those moments when you catch a glimpse of someone else’s browser or desktop
Simon
Organised chaos
Tara’s desktop
???
Jen
I actually captured a photo of a very well known fundraiser and presenter whose desktop showed up at a conference
talking about a dumpster fire
Simon
I think I know who
Let’s call him Bernard X
Nooooo
Let’s call him Mr Ross
John
lol
?
Jen
HAHAHAHHA
Not even cheating the edit there, eh Simon?
Beate
What I really winds me up is those people who go: “Just clean your inbox, do them one at a time, tick stuff of your list, and you’ll feel sooooo much better”. It just makes me angry – I turn in to a 14 year old screaming “YEEES MUM I WILL CLEAN MY ROOM STOOOOP NAGGING I KNOOOOOOW!”
The serial killer people
the Inbox-zero-evangelists
Jen
Axe murderers. Same with people who tweet it.
“Zero inbox and off I go on vacay”
Beate
“Inbox zero?”
With the psychopath emoji
John
GFY. seriously.
Simon
Snooze is good for inbox zero
Beate
Yes
And folders
and archive/delete with easy access
Simon
This is the year I get organised
Beate
You just quit your bullet journal
?
Simon
This is the year I get organised in a different way
Beate
hahah
Simon
Trello is working for me
And google calendar
Jen
This is a no shame chat…oh wait…sorry…wrong group
Simon
But you know the problem?
Other people
Beate
True
Simon
When you get your shit together and then suddenly childminder has to do something or someone phones you or whatever
Beate
or EMAILS YOU
throws their dirty socks on the floor
?
Jen
WAIT I’m sure there is a way to say that in Norwegian
Beate
You just shout “ROTKAILL” after the dude who threw their socks on the floor?
John
?
John
John, don’t even attempt it
Jen
Fucking right, I knew it@!
John
im sitting here trying
Simon
You know what I did which I love
Beate
I’m inserting Johns trying to say Donorlove in Norwegian here
Simon
I change my voicemail so it says dont leave me a voicemail
Jen
Let’s hear it!
John
WROTE-KAAAAIIIIII-LLLLL
Beate
Get wrid of the w and you’ve got it!
Jen
“Hey, It’s Simon, You missed me, so call me back and don’t leave a fucking message”
Simon
Yeh I basically just say please dont leave me a voicemail cos voicemails are terrible. Text me. Or dont
Jen
So next time I call you don’t pick up
Simon
Like really nothing is important enough. Even if someone’s dead, just let me chill out for a bit. I’ll find out eventually
Beate
Hey speaking of organised. Have you read that shit about how differently our brains are organised? How some people have a voice in their head narrating when they think/read, and others just …don’t..?
Simon
Beate
Which one are you?
Beate
I totally have a voice
Jen
Beate
My voice has a megaphone
John
I can attest to that
Beate
Like some people can’t speak to themselves in the mirror without speaking out loud and I DON’T UNDERSTAND!
Simon
I have someone else’s voice
Beate
Like what is your brain if it doesn’t have a voice, just a mush of images and vague concepts floating around?
Simon
Every time I go in to my psychiatrist they have to ask me if I’ve been hearing voices
Thankfully never have
Beate
Well that’s good
Simon
But I would rather that then use Slack
Beate
HAHAH!
You’re just one of those outlook people
Jen
Slack IS the “other” voice in your head
Beate
“oh I’ve always used it, it’s FINE”
Simon
Slack is like having everyone else’s voice in your head
Beate
But out of your emails, which is the better point
Jen
So Bea your voice is like an 8 track?
Beate
I’m a millennial, I don’t know what that is
Jen
oh shit just realized the old lady jen there
DAMN
Beate
Ok – lobster fact time?
Simon
Oh fuck I forgot it’s my lobster fact turn
John
lol
Beate
Just do a John and reuse one
but with different words
John
hey
?
Simon
Anyone have one stored in Slack or Trello or a piece of fucking paper?
Have we done the one about lobsters smelling with their feet?
Beate
I don’t think so!
Simon
OK
Hey guys, guess what lobsters smell with?
Beate
Their noses?
John
their FEET!
Simon
Lobsters can be left-‘handed’, right-‘handed’ or ambidextrous, and have several receptors on their claws and their legs, which they use to locate and recognise any food that is around them.
Beate
Is it actually smell?
Simon
Wait, I feel like that contradicts the title of the fact
Beate
Or some other kind of function?
Simon
I’m not using this lobster fact site again
Beate
Left-feeted
John
im not sure how this fact relates to this conversation though
Beate
ambifeettrous
John
like jen?
Jen
this is a very rare gongshow and shitshow colliding!
Simon
Oh ok I have a relevant one and then we’ll finish
Beate
two lobster facts, bonus!
Simon
Lobsters are biologically immortal
Jen
LIKE JEN
Simon
They keep growing until they die
Beate
…what..?
Simon
So their approach to time is different from us
John
is the “like jen” thing solely Simon’s territory?
Beate
yeah, kinda
Simon
Lobsters don’t use Slack
John
HA
Jen
We should start a Slack thread
Beate
So – if no one steps on them or fishes them, they live forever??
or do they die from size?
?
Simon
No
John
norweigan over-fishing?
Simon
They stop growing when they die. If they didnt die they’d grow to an infinite size
They live until like 50
But one day
The way lobster healthcare is progressing
Beate
The immortal thing threw me
John
IMAGINE!
Simon
They’ll be huge
John
giant lobsters!
Simon
Yeh the immortal thing is misleading. Blame science naming people
Beate
another faulty name lobster fact
Simon
OK I have to go
Watch out for giant lobsters everyone
I’m late
John
adios
Beate
buh-bye ?
Jen
Way to plan your time Simon
Simon
❤
Jen
Byyyyeeeeeeeeeee
Simon
Hallo